Yeah i was thinking the same thing, so i tried it and its the same either way. Is there a way to split the dvd in 2, but tell it to transfer certain program chains to both discs? Can you tell me what steps you might have taken to back yours up? I used dvd decryptor to rip the files, then IFO .91/.94 (tried both)and split to two dvds. That gave me the VTS_01 sets and ifos which look like i posted above. I then copied from the original set of files the VIDEO_TS.XXX files and the VTS_03 (studio/fbi crap) and thats it. i haven't edited any ifos or anything.... Disc 2 plays in the IFOEDIT dvd player, disc 1 stops with the illegal navigation error when it trys to switch to the title menu after the FBI/Studio junk. BUT i did notice the menu button works if I hit it before it tries to switch to the title menu. Is there a way to get the disc to jump to where the menu button links to, but do so in the same way as the menu button? meaining, obviously the menu button takes you to the menu files, but it must bypass somethings that are accessed when you let the disc play to the menu normally. I must be missing one stupid thing since you were able to do it and you mentioned it wasn't too hard. arghh!!! Thanks Ardend