i think its funny, how tastes can differ.. (or possibly dvd-releases, lol..) at least to me, fightclub looks pretty noisy and has quite some blocks in the mpeg2-source. they filmed it almost entirely under "realistic" light conditions, what gives it kind of a real feeling, but naturaly pays with noise. still it is very compressible, i guess since it comes out pretty dark.. i did an encode without bframes and any filtering a few days ago (my very very first xvid!) and actually i liked it already, but that mosquito-noise really annoyed me.. so i keep experimenting a bit and if i'm lucky i'll find some setting wich i'll like more.. i recently bought a new (and big) tv wich has the advances of a tv over a monitor in terms of luminace but also i find it to be nearly as accurate as my monitor, meaning, it displays macroblocks very clearly as well. also for me detail /is/ very important, but i like a /stable/ picture. noise makes especially faces move around in themselves, making me feel like i took some drugs, hehe.. and i found a new friend to make life easier: avisynth monitor, but thats old stuff to you, i know ;)