HowTo do RV9 with Ogg Vorbis

vivir

1) go to Get "DLLs Ogg Plugin". Unzip and copy to c:\program files\common files\real\plugins. Test that you can now drop an ogg into RealOne and have it play back. 2) Encode your clip with RV9 without audio: You can do this any number of ways, but I used AutoRV9, and let it complete audio conversion, and CTRL-C'd out after producer started. Then I simply edited the .avs file AutoRV9 created to remove the audio track, and then re-started the command line after also having adjusted the bitrate in the AutoRV9 rpad file down by 96 kbps. 3) Encode the .wav file with your favorite Ogg encoding tool. I used oggdropXPd to encode the audio at 96 kbps. 4) Copy the SMIL code below to its own file, and change the names of the .ogg file and .rmvb files to match yours. Also remember to change the video dimensions! 5) Sit back and enjoy RV9 with Ogg Vorbis. Please note that there will probably be audio/video synchronization issues. At least that is what I noticed after seeking to the middle of the clip. You can, however, get the Ogg plugin source code from the Helix Community link above, so please feel free to contribute any fixes and improvements you can come up with. I have not looked into the sync problem myself, or how easy it may be to fix. <smil> <head> <layout> <region id="VideoChannel1" left="0" top="0" height="352" width="640"/> </layout> </head> <body> <par title="audio video mixer test"> <video src = "mc_short_noaudio.rmvb" region="VideoChannel1"/> <audio src = "mc_short.ogg"/> </par> </body> </smil> EDIT: fixed link: it included a '.'

king

Hey Karl !! ... you guys were beating us to it ... we had plans to make this possible with our tools and container, probably until middle of the year .... of course, the sense behind doing so may be questioned as you guys have a pretty good container already, but we definitely plan to support ALL existing codecs, so that does include Real video and audio, and be it just for the sake of completeness :) ...

opium

@karl_lillevold: Do you forsee any problems putting RV9 into Matroska? Matroska requires that it is fed a page of data that refers to one, or more, frames of video. It can make simple references to the previous and following frames, just like the standard IPB frame types. It can also handle complex referencing because it can handle any number of references to other frames anywhere in the stream. But the main thing is that the video frames for RV9 need to be broken down into data pages with timecodes.

mateusz_71

hmm.. wouldnt muxxing a rm file into a matruska file mean that this file can only be played back by realone? cause there are still no directshow filters for rm.... so realone would have to support matruska..... looks like problems to me :)

REM0XING

Without knowing the specification details, if Matroska can handle the other modern video codecs, it should be able to handle RV9. I am also glad to see that Matroska is future-proof enough to handle complex referencing such as those that could potentially be used by H.264 encoders. So I don't foresee any problems as long as the appropriate interfaces to the codecs are used, and frametypes and timecodes are correctly identified. I am, however, unsure of level of detail we have been able to publish with regards to this.

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