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Midi? Hmmm... never tried it. You're right it does stop. Strange.

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Wiadomość # 1 16.07.22 - 22:07:39
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So it's not only here... I mentioned that several times on a side note but nobody confirmed, so I thought it's my puter. So, how common is that? If you ask me, it shouldn't even stutter when glueing audio. With midi it is... well, more than strange.

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Wiadomość # 2 16.07.22 - 22:14:21
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Glad it's confirmed! Yes...a groove kill. Scenario: Record a small MIDI part, tweak in the ME. Hit PLAY. While in play, I want to glue the new item to the other items in the track, and keep working in the ME. This is SOP for most MIDI-ites.

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Wiadomość # 3 16.07.22 - 22:23:50
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Yeah - this has been mentioned to Justin so he is aware. +1 for getting it sorted since I'm often left with multiple MIDI items when I've recorded at an earlier point leading up to an existing item and having it stop is frustrating. Also.. I have had a couple of instances where gluing while playing actually freezes everything for 10 seconds before doing the glue operation. Anyone experienced this?

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Wiadomość # 4 16.07.22 - 22:32:19
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Here as soon as I engage glue, playback will stop, while the record button in the transport stays lit. (which may be a little bug inside the nitpick). It will take about 3 seconds to perform the glue, even with empty midi items. Only then i am able to start playback again. Surely not what I'd want a customer (as if I had any now, but others do) to see. Back when I used to do the engeneering in a club's project studio I always did these 'cleanups' while the clients were listening. They would have complained if I had to stop the playback all the time... or I would have had to do this work with playback stopped alltogether, waisting time in which the band could have listened and sorted out what else they want to do to the song. Nowadays as a hobbyist, mostly working with (rather short snippets) of heavily edited midi, it is annoying me the most -when I want to lenghten a midi item leftward (to have room to insert some events before the first note or just having the first note a bit early), -when I want to create an empty midi item of more than a bar length (where ctrl-drag + glueing seems to be the fastest method, but isn't) and -when I want to combine midi items to have them in one PRV window. I am glad to hear Cockos is aware, but would like to know if they are about to do something for that matter. It may be Reaper's design to write a new file when glueing, but couldn't it be done in the background? For my tasks it would be sufficient to just merge the pure midi data and alter the start/end times accordingly. No FX or fades need to be computed, perhaps a new 'midi merge' command with no file-writing could be a solution if nothing else helps? And yes, all the tasks I mentioned could be solved in an even smarter way with some improvements at other places in Reaper, but still... sometimes I will want to combine midi items into one and it should be as smooth as 'heal split'. I never had Reaper to freeze entirely with glueing, though.

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Wiadomość # 5 16.07.22 - 22:42:11
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The following is only loosely related to this thread... Have you noticed sometimes, when placing multiple MIDI items exactly on top of each other, the contents vanishes? When you glue them together, this is what you get an item that doesn't have all the data from both items. So far the solution has been to wiggle the beginning of the second item a bit - then both contents appear and can be merged with glue.

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Wiadomość # 6 16.07.22 - 22:52:58
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@ carbon Haven't seen that yet, but the glueing error might have to do with fades or crossfades applied to your items when you place them on top of each other. Item fades on midi items alter the note velocities, so it might be that some notes get velocity zero by a fade. They wouldn't vanish content, though. I can still see all notes in main view and midi editor. Can you see the missing data in the event list view (before you glue, I mean) when that happens?

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Wiadomość # 7 16.07.22 - 22:58:24
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Let's hope this can be resolved for v3!

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Wiadomość # 8 16.07.22 - 23:05:36
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+1 Would be nice to see this changed/"fixed". Been gluing more recently, and it does hamper the vibe, somewhat. :) --aside: (Preferences, preferences! Stop on glue? Pause on glue? For MIDI? For Audio? Set a threshold depending on length of parts/length of final-glued item? Madness could ensue. TBH, these aren't the kind of preferences I'm desperate for, by any means. But I do wonder what the hardy pro users of other DAWs out there might think, if REAPER became *that* configurable.)

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Wiadomość # 9 16.07.22 - 23:10:37
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FIXED (3.35)

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Wiadomość # 10 16.07.22 - 23:14:28
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